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	<title>Comments on: There is no spoon&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: McGrew Security Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-04-29</title>
		<link>http://www.gnucitizen.org/blog/there-is-no-spoon/comment-page-1/#comment-120331</link>
		<dc:creator>McGrew Security Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-04-29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There is no spoonâ€¦ &#124; GNUCITIZEN Paul guest-blogs for gnucitizen. Essentially, the crunchy-outer-layer/chewy-center model of security is dead, has been dead for some time, and the sooner you realize it the better. (tags: security) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There is no spoonâ€¦ | GNUCITIZEN Paul guest-blogs for gnucitizen. Essentially, the crunchy-outer-layer/chewy-center model of security is dead, has been dead for some time, and the sooner you realize it the better. (tags: security) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MadIrish</title>
		<link>http://www.gnucitizen.org/blog/there-is-no-spoon/comment-page-1/#comment-119484</link>
		<dc:creator>MadIrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently attended a training seminar on business decision making and one of the most interesting things the speaker pointed out was that the best solution to a problem is to recast the situation so that the problem is no longer a problem.  This is classic &quot;out of the box&quot; thinking.  It&#039;s interesting to see network security evolve a paradigm shift that treats the network as hostile (even the internal network).  It is this kind of shift that allows you to remove many traditional &quot;problems&quot; of security by assuming they&#039;re actually the norm rather than anomalous.  I think the crux of this approach is to recognize that most servers provide open services to the internet.  When an attacker attempts a brute force of a service it&#039;s not actually an attack, or even an exploitation of the service, the attacker is utilizing the service *exactly* as it was intended.  While the behavior may be the harbinger of &quot;very bad&quot; things to come, the system itself is operating according to design.  In order to remove the attacker&#039;s brute force attack you have to fundamentally change the design of the public service, or accept the attack as part of the normal state affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently attended a training seminar on business decision making and one of the most interesting things the speaker pointed out was that the best solution to a problem is to recast the situation so that the problem is no longer a problem.  This is classic &#8220;out of the box&#8221; thinking.  It&#8217;s interesting to see network security evolve a paradigm shift that treats the network as hostile (even the internal network).  It is this kind of shift that allows you to remove many traditional &#8220;problems&#8221; of security by assuming they&#8217;re actually the norm rather than anomalous.  I think the crux of this approach is to recognize that most servers provide open services to the internet.  When an attacker attempts a brute force of a service it&#8217;s not actually an attack, or even an exploitation of the service, the attacker is utilizing the service *exactly* as it was intended.  While the behavior may be the harbinger of &#8220;very bad&#8221; things to come, the system itself is operating according to design.  In order to remove the attacker&#8217;s brute force attack you have to fundamentally change the design of the public service, or accept the attack as part of the normal state affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: GNUCITIZEN Security Article at Cus Productions</title>
		<link>http://www.gnucitizen.org/blog/there-is-no-spoon/comment-page-1/#comment-119433</link>
		<dc:creator>GNUCITIZEN Security Article at Cus Productions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] course on &#8220;Cutting-Edge Hacking Techniques&#8221;. He summarises a lot of the basics over at GNUCITIZEN. I especially like: There is no â€œinsideâ€ - Treat your network as if it is always exposed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course on &#8220;Cutting-Edge Hacking Techniques&#8221;. He summarises a lot of the basics over at GNUCITIZEN. I especially like: There is no â€œinsideâ€ &#8211; Treat your network as if it is always exposed [...]</p>
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